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Updated: June 4, 2013 10:53AM

SEATTLE — The Gashouse Gang, these White Sox aren’t. Taking on the look of a team that’s too nice or not showing enough fire, well, that’s going to happen when you hit .237 as a team.

You look dead.

And with a manager as California calm as Robin Ventura, and no Leo Durochers, Dizzy Deans or Pepper Martins stirring up dust, don’t look for the Sox to become something they’re not.

Hitting the ball and catching it better is all they can hope for.

The Sox tossed a couple of bats, and plate umpire Dale Scott tossed bench coach Mark Parent during the seventh inning of a 4-2 loss to the Mariners on Monday night — the Sox’ seventh defeat in a row — so there was some emotion, if that counts for anything.

“That’s something you can go out and do it for show, but, for me, you’re doing it for the wrong reasons,’’ said Adam Dunn (1-for-3, RBI single in the ninth), who calmly flipped his bat after striking out in the fourth inning. “You’re doing it so the media writes about how fiery so and so is. I think as players, the family that we are, people see right through that. You are what you are.’’

Individual player meetings with Ventura, coaches and, in some cases, general manager Rick Hahn were not tongue-lashings, although Hahn said in some cases players should know they “won’t be spending summers in Chicago” much longer if things don’t change.

“It was all pretty positive,’’ said catcher Tyler Flowers, whose passed ball led to an unearned run against losing pitcher John Danks (0-2). “For the most part, I walked away from it feeling pretty positive and encouraged and feeling like everybody’s behind me.’’

Dunn said he had a similar meeting.

“I don’t think it takes a rocket scientist to figure it out,’’ he said. “Especially offensively. We haven’t done anything that we’re remotely capable of doing. [Ventura is] not the only one who is disappointed.’’

Ventura said last week that “it can only get worse,” and he was right. Mariners lefty Joe Saunders (4-5), who entered the game with a 5.57 ERA, allowed a run, five hits and a walk over 61/3 innings. Even though the Mariners are 25-33 and have hitting problems of their own, it won’t get easier for the Sox against Felix Hernandez (6-4, 2.38 ERA) on Tuesday and Hisashi Iwakuma (6-1, 2.13) on Wednesday.

Jeff Keppinger drove in the Sox’ first run with a single in the second, giving the visitors their first lead in 56 innings. But Danks got dinged up for three consecutive hits in the third, including an RBI double by Kendrys Morales and a two-run homer by Raul Ibanez to make it 4-1.

“We’ve had our meetings, but there’s only so much that can be said,’’ Dunn said before the game. “I think everyone in here knows what needs to be done. It’s just not getting done.”

Said Ventura: “We just talk to different people all the time. You’re not blaming anybody for anything. It’s just making sure everyone is still doing what they need to do. Just individual stuff that I want to clear up.

“They’re not fun. Nobody wants to do these meetings, but when you’re in a situation like this, it’s necessary. I’m the guy who needs to do that.’’

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